Creator outreach at scale — funnel math, emails, calls and referrals
How Cal AI signed 2,000–3,000 creators from ~220,000 contacted (25 assistants sending ~2,000 emails a day, AI-handled replies, a sales call, $100–200 referral bonuses), plus Coconote's rule for spotting reachable creators and why relationships compound.
Creator outreach at scale
TL;DR
- Expect ~1% conversion: Cal AI contacted ~220,000 influencers and signed 2,000–3,000.1
- Alfie Dickens’s rough funnel per 100 emails: ~10 replies, ~2 calls, ~1 signed. Real numbers were often nearer 1 signed per 1,000.1
- Volume: 25 outreach assistants × ~100 emails a day ≈ 2,000 a day. Email beats DMs (DM limits, low reply rates unless you’re famous).23
- Don’t ask for a call in message one. Answer “what’s your budget?” by pitching “seamless integration, long-term partnership, keep making your normal videos”, then ask for a call. Calls ~10× the chance of signing on good terms.45
- Pay creators $100–200 per referred friend you sign — it also gets you around agents.6
- Coconote’s filter: a Gmail address and 5–10K followers with good engagement is the sweet spot; an agency email in the bio means “you’re too late”.78
Details
Cal AI’s machine (Alfie Dickens).
- Started with ~5 marketing assistants doing ~100 contacts each a day; grew to 25, hired through an outsourcing company. Real output was often 40–70 a day.23
- After the first email, AI handled the initial back-and-forth and handed warm leads to a manager’s calendar.3
- Alfie’s call script: get to know the creator first, then pitch “you keep doing what you’re doing, just sneak the app in”. Creators hate word-for-word scripts.9
- Deals died almost only on price.10
- Assistants got monthly prizes (cash, vouchers) for most contacts and most sign-ups via “referred by” tracking.11
- Signing targets were 50+ creators a month, sometimes 100.12
- Agents block deals a creator would take; Cal AI pushed to get the influencer themselves into the deal group chat.136
- Being less picky than most brands helped: Cal AI contacted creators in France, Germany, Spain, the UK and the US, and said yes whenever the app fit the video at a decent CPM.14
It’s a grind (Jake Castillo). There’s no secret: thousands of messages, mostly unanswered, painful negotiations, every day for 18 months. Jake sees the difficulty as the moat — competitors quit after a day.1516
Relationships compound. Treat early creators as partners: Cal AI gave Dawson Gibbs unprompted bonuses because he iterated on angles without nickel-and-diming, and happy creators refer friends.17 Dawson referred ~100 creators to Cal AI for a per-creator fee.18
Onboarding friction (Drew Levin). Script every step: outreach message → 5-minute call → Notion page to join the campaign and submit handles. If it isn’t easy, the program never gets off the ground.19
Disagreements / caveats
- Cal AI’s volume worked because fitness has a near-endless creator supply; in a small niche you’ll run out of creators long before 220K.
- Nicole Cheung (How to find, vet and pay UGC creators for an app) recruits mostly through inbound and Discord communities once established, rather than cold volume.
See also
- Content creators vs influencers — which to hire for an app
- Pricing influencer deals — RPM cap, flat rates and minimum view clauses
Footnotes
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 35:21 — Alfie Dickens ↩ ↩2
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 34:06 — Alfie Dickens ↩ ↩2
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 44:25 — Alfie Dickens ↩ ↩2 ↩3
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 37:39 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 39:15 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 45:33 — Alfie Dickens ↩ ↩2
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$6.7M ARR, No Paid Ads, and an Exit to Quizlet in 2 Years – Brett Bauman & Zack Hargett, Coconote @ 24:43 — Zack Hargett ↩
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$6.7M ARR, No Paid Ads, and an Exit to Quizlet in 2 Years – Brett Bauman & Zack Hargett, Coconote @ 25:31 — Zack Hargett ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 07:05 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 40:46 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 42:20 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 16:12 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 46:35 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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Meet The Marketing Genius Behind Cal AI @ 36:41 — Alfie Dickens ↩
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How Cal AI turned creators into a growth machine — Jake Castillo, Cal AI @ 43:33 — Jake Castillo ↩
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How Cal AI turned creators into a growth machine — Jake Castillo, Cal AI @ 44:25 — Jake Castillo ↩
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How Cal AI turned creators into a growth machine — Jake Castillo, Cal AI @ 06:35 — Jake Castillo ↩
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The 1 Billion Views Content Strategy Every App Should Steal in 2026 @ 04:09 — Dawson Gibbs ↩
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I Studied 1,000,000 UGC Ads, This Is What Will Grow Your App @ 14:02 — Drew Levin ↩